Then why not buy your very own man-made island? In fact, while you're at it, why don't you buy one that is a chain of islands designed to look like the world. Located off the coast of oil-rich Dubai, 'The World' is the perfect place to blow all that extra money that you just happen to have laying around...Okay, so seriously- this is a pretty crazy concept. Celeste and I had a lot of fun loooking at this site and viewing the videos they have posted. I still can't believe that this is actually real. What a concept- and I thought terraforming to this degree only existed in sci-fi world.
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Hey, you have a HV20 right? I was just wondering how it performs under low light scenarios. Cause i was thinking of buying one as a back up camera cause they're so cheap and shoot pretty good footage from what ive heard. So yeah hows the low light shooting on it?
Oh My! That's so crazy!
Travis- I love my HV20- it is amazing! I know a few people who bought the camera thinking that they would use it as their backup and that ended up using it as their main. The 24p combined with cinemode is simply amazing, and if you have a solid lightsource (daylight or indoor) then I would dare you to be able to tell the difference between the footage on this and the footage from a Canon XL H1. There really just isn't that big of a difference! However, in low light the camera does suffer- especially in 24p mode. Footage becomes choppy and cumbersome. You'd be better off shooting with 60i at night, and even then with some lights.
I started to download some footage that I shot during my honeymoon to my computer yesterday but didn't get a chance to upload it to the net yet. I'll try to dummy up a sample roll of film tonight so that you can see it in various lighting situations (I believe I have full-on afternoon lighting at the beach, night-time lighted scenario at the airport, and then a day-time lighted scenario shot in a grocery store.) This sample roll should give you a decent idea as to the quality of the camera. I have not yet shot any artistic or cinematically engaging stuff yet- that will come soon though. All the sample footage I'm going to upload is on-the-fly, regular camcorder stuff that anybody would shoot. I'm really pumped to see what this little guy can do in a scripted, lighted, and methodically placed situation. Dude- you're going to want this camera, there is nothing better for the money. I'm seriously thinking of doing a documentary with it- it would be amazing for that as well. Do a search on vimeo.com for HV20 footage. Vimeo is an amazing site for watching HD samples.
Yeah cause me and my friend are in the process of producing another short film and we wanted to do some filming in low light and i really dont want to fork out the BIG bucks for like a xh a1, GY-HD110U,hvx200 or something id rather just use something like an hv20 and save up for one of the big wigs later on.
Well if you are wanting to purchase the HV-20 for the express purpose of shooting in low-light, it may not be a good option. However, there pretty much isn't anything (to my knowledge) in that price range that could do a better job. Good low-light stuff is hard to come by... a lot of it has to do with just having that beefier lens that has the ability to let more light in. Good low light comes with a fairly large pricetag unfortunately most of the time. I don't have any true low-light footage for you unfortunately, but I might be able to shoot some tonight so that you can get a feel for what I'm talking about.
Just out of curiosity, what type of low light situations are we talking about? Outside? Indoor? You might be able to start with a lighter-than-desired setting for the sake of getting good detail in your film and then darken it in post-production. AE can be used quite a bit to pull off a darkened effect (especially in playing with the levels and lights). The key is not take an extremely light piece of film and expect it to come out looking like it was shot at night. However, if you start off with a clip that is in a somewhat darker surrounding and then push that down further, it can look really nice.
Well there are a few scenes where we have some men and they're going to be planning out an attack in a abandoned warehouse. I picture it as, a table with 3 or 4 guys around it and a map on a table in a low lit room with a lamp hanging from the ceiling or something.
Or my friend found a XL1 for $950 on craigslist would that be a better bet for us? Just shoot that sucker in SD?
Hmmmm... that lamp may be enough, as long as you were shooting pretty tight. Still though, the XL1 is a fantastic camera, especially for that price. Remember you're not getting HD with that, so you're not making a jump into the future on that end of things, but still- as far as lenses go, that'll have the HV20 beat hands down. So, to be honest, thats a really tough decision- do you go with the 24p, 1080i HD camera with limited options and a cheaper lens... OR... the XL1 which has lots of amazing options, a killer lens, but suffers from its inability to shoot in HD and 24p.
If it were me, I'd compare footage that is available on the net. Forget about the cameras themselves- evaluate solely based on what the camera can do. I'll try to post my samples tonight if possible. I've got a small bankers lamp at home that I may shoot some mock footage of myself by just for your reference. If you are looking at the XL1 seriously, I'd bring your own DV tape and ask to shoot some sample footage with it outside and inside (maybe even go into a bathroom or something like that and bring a lamp or lighting device of some sort if that'd not too weird for you... ha ha!).
For what it's worth- I love the HV20, but the XL1 is amazing too. Our professional videographer here at FH uses a XL1 because, in his opinion, its one of the best cameras you can get for the price and he feels that its still going to be a few years before HD is fully integrated into popular culture.
Remember- HD is incredible, but you have to have a compliant TV to make it truely worthwhile. For me, I was looking for a camera that I could use for 3 plus years and still stay pace with technological standards. The HV20 may not compete with the likes of the XL2, but it does keep pace with the way things are going pretty well.
Honestly- the 24p mode is what sold me on this camera. I'm not sure if you've been able to look at 24p cs. 60i footage next to each other or not yet. 24p looks MUCH more like an actual film, whereas 60i is very very camcordish. This is not to say that 60i is bad (in fact there are many times where it is better to film in this mode), but being able to film in 24p is incredible. The movement is more fluid (in my opinion) and makes you feel as if you are watching a documentary, not a camcorder. The XL1 does not have this option.
That being said, the XL1 is essentially the same as the XL2 save a few (but undeniably awesome) options. Check out this link for a comparison: http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Canon-XL1S-and-Canon-XL2-compared.htm
I know this probably confuse you more than helped, but I want to be fair to both cameras. If HD isn't a huge deal to you, then I'd say go with the XL1- just make sure you're getting a sound piece of equipment. Check back tomorrow for possible clips.
Dang it i shouldn't have bought that Canon EOS 40d 28-135mm camera. Cause now i want that money to put towards a xh a1 lol. To answer your question about SD yeah ever since HD came out i can't stand SD. I dont know what it is its like i couldnt stand filming in something lower resolution than most consumer cameras out there. But then again HD prosumer cameras aren't cheap.
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